To Love Forever - Wisdom From The Fulfillment Forum

Emotionally healthy men and women almostCivil War and there were no cures. The young
always share their lives with lovers whoseConfederate general A P Hill contacted gonorrhea
happiness is crucial to their own fulfillment -- evenas a West Point cadet and suffered from it the
if they failed to understand the reciprocal naturerest of his life until he died in his late thirties. In
of mutual satisfaction while they were young. Inaddition, because they had no reliable birth control
our youthful years we may be so filled with suchmethods many wives were pregnant or nursing
intense sexual desires that we forget it reallyalmost all the time. Married women were baby
does take two to tango successfully for anymaking machines and every major religious
length of time. If either lover feels deprived, thedenomination in England and America in 1900 still
music soon loses its ability to charm us. As weinsisted that birth control was a sin against God
learn to love a person deeply, we want both toand humanity. It is still in the Roman Catholic
be personally satisfied -- while also becoming aChurch. Birth control was forbidden because
pleasing lover. Our sexual pleasure remains secondprimitive societies needed a constant flow of
rate unless the lover becomes a full partner in thestrong, young persons to do all the scut work
intimacy.Of course, some neurotic persons useneeded to keep life running smoothly. Such
sex in a power play for ego benefits that havechurches still confuse social traditions with
little to do with love. We insist -- allspirituality as they always have. As late as 1900,
psychospiritually healthy women and men want tochildbirth was a trip down into the valley of the
please the sweetheart with whom they shareshadow of death for every woman. The childbirth
physical, emotional, and spiritual intimacy. Anythingdeath of great many women was an acceptable
less is selfishness -- is prima facia evidence thattrade-off with the need for more workers for
one is still an emotional adolescent, grasping whatthe farms and companies of the time. Childbed
he or she can in a short term relationship. Sexualfever due to contaminated bed clothing was so
selfishness and the potential for abuse thatvirulent that most women had their wills written
follows is always the result of one's seriousbefore giving birth.Roberta's maternal grandfather,
emotional and spiritual failures.Despite the universalan undeniably devout Methodist preacher, had
need for loving relationships, one marriage out ofseven children with his first wife before she died
two fails, with a major cause of divorce beingafter the final birth and then had twelve more
serious sexual disappointment caused by somekids with his second wife before she also died in
form of narcissism -- satiation or some kind ofchildbirth. Women had no rights -- they could not
neurotic power struggle within the relationship.refuse their randy husbands access to their
Many of the marriages which survive are suchbodies even if another pregnancy would be fatal.
emotional and sexual disasters that the partnersTheir marriage dowry was given to their
are left with a terrible sense of disappointmenthusbands, they could seldom work outside the
about the entire affair. Actually, comparativelyhome and if they did, the law required them to
few men and women actually remain lovers forsurrender their earnings to their husbands every
life with the joy that a sound relationshippayday. Actually, they were treated as brood
guarantees. It is obvious that many couples havemares as Abigail Smith Adams wrote and wrote
not mastered the attitudes, activities andagain to her husband Samuel Adams when he
relationships needed to make love permanent.was helping form the United States government.
We, Roberta and Jard, realize that we have doneShe urged him over and over to give women
pretty well -- we are still sharing our love for onesome civil rights but he was unable to persuade
other and enjoying our erotic intimacy after half athe southern contingent of politicians to treat
century of love and marriage. We have thoughtwomen fairly. It took more than a hundred years
much about all this and have come to thefor women to gain the vote and some simple
delightful conclusion -- We are not yet through!rights to manage their own lives. With disease and
Despite all odds and some glaring mistakes alongdeath a common outcome of a sexual
the way, we have managed to remain loversrelationship, and with a complete loss of freedom
because we understand some key factors aboutfrom entering into a marriage, Roberta says she
relationships: To begin with:WOMEN AND MENcan certainly understand why Mother Lee founded
REALLY NEED EACH OTHER FOR LOVE TOher Shaker colonies. The arrangement was so
PROSPER.SEXUAL AROUSAL AND PLEASURE ISwomen could care for themselves -- by
A NORMAL STATE FOR LOVERS.SATISACTIONthemselves -- and with the celibate companionship
INCREASES EXPONENTIALLY AS WE MATUREof those men who were willing to treat them
TOGETHER. These are attainable ideals thatdecently. Of course, Jard also understands why
unfortunately, because of narcissism and nihilism,the Shakers prospered during that period and
can be crippled enough to destroy relationships.failed when women won some freedoms, learned
However, since the need for love and intimacyto plan their babies and could avoid venereal
does not end with conflict and unhappiness --disease through modern medicines. The lives of
even after separation and divorce, most personswomen became so much better during the 20th
with failed marriages usually seek someone newcentury that few needed to abandon marriage
with whom to share romance. We have learnedand children in order to become real persons.
how vital it is to have a loving partner who caresThus the Shaker colonies vanished as society
deeply about us; who eagerly and joyfully joinschanged drastically.Men and women who have
their body, mind and spirit to our own.lovingly committed their lives to each other have
Unfortunately, some people continue looking for aevery physical, psychological and spiritual reason
perfect partner rather than learning how toto develop deeply satisfying sexual relations as a
become a better lover. Nevertheless, mostpositive aspect of life. Each of us needs a loving
second marriages succeed well enough to be heldsoul with whom to share the many responsibilities
together. Couples, the second time around, usuallyand rewards of life, to labor with during the day
have more realistic expectations and attitudes --and to fill the nights with the magic of a passion
can abandon the youthful selfishness that comesthat doesn't fade but becomes more mature and
between themselves and their lovers, and acceptfulfilling as we enfold one another with kisses and
the partial loaf of a sound relationship if not acaresses We believe that anyone who teaches
grand romance..Actually, many marriages failotherwise, who wants to ration a couple's
because the institutions that are supposed to helpsexuality to conception, whether in the church or
men and women live together without too muchout, is emotionally crippled and wants others to
conflict, fail at their tasks. For example, manysuffer with him rather than mature in the physical
people tell us that the church must accept a fullaspects of love. The very concept of life-long
share of the responsibility for the failure of manycelibacy and sexual deprivation is a wicked
relationships. Its emphasis on archaic rules, thesociopath requirement laid on couples by medieval
condemnation of spontaneous sexuality mademinded clergy who are trapped by their sexist
possible through birth control, and reluctance totheology - which is why ninety percent of English
accept lovemaking as a spiritual relationship in andspeaking Catholic women of child bearing age defy
of itself, long after science has separated sextheir clergy to practice proscribed forms of birth
from child bearing, has been crippling to a greatcontrol. And why almost seventy percent of
many marriages. Too many reactionaryCatholic priests from African, Asian and Latin
clergymen have simply not come to grips withAmerican nations are rearing families with secret
the realities of life and love since neuroticwives or with women with whom they are in
medieval myths and superstitions about sexualitypermanent sexual relationships. To end this
were accepted as basic religious morality.Evenpractice of love and affection would destroy the
today in most fundamental and orthodox religiousCatholic leadership of most nations south of the
denominations, morality is connected almostequator.Fortunately, even a when person has
entirely to sexuality. In much of the right wingbeen crippled and confused by religious, political or
church you can engage in virtually any kind ofcultural myths about the role sexual relationships
racism or sexism -- condemning minorities andplay in life, human resilience is so great that he or
manipulating women -- so long as you profess toshe can learn how to live a purposeful life, one
have been born again and do not commit adulteryleading to happiness and permanence in
with your neighbor's child or spouse. Or at least,relationships. No one is doomed to unhappiness in
don't get caught committing adultery! We finda partnership unless he or she accepts someone's
such practices not only a simplistic view ofmanipulation of himself. Ridding oneself of
spirituality but really a mockery of faith, hope anddistorted symptoms and selfish behaviors can help
love within the Judaeo/Christian and the Islamicpave the way toward maturity and fulfillment.We,
traditions.Our educational institutions have doneRoberta and Jard -- have lived together for
just as poorly, for they occasionally teach sexualalmost half a century. We reared three kids and
mechanics and techniques while ignoring the needeven our grandkids have kids now and we still
for spiritual love which is vital to keeping alove each other dearly. We would like to be able
relationship alive and well, filled with sexualto report to you that we had a storybook
satisfaction and make the sweethearts mutuallyromance and marriage: We would like to, but alas,
supportive over the years. Few of the sexwe cannot. To start with, Roberta certainly did
classes we see go beyond simply teaching how tonot get a Prince Charming in Jard. He is a
be sexually effective, how as James said, tostubborn, willful man who has gone through life
insert tab A into slot B. Now, with most of thedoing precisely what he wanted to do. Of course,
emphasis on how to have a glorious orgasm (orRoberta wasn't a Fairy Princess -- at times the
half a dozen of them), it's as though love,sparks flew. They still do! But, we started life
acceptance and mutual support have becomeeven, both having naive attitudes about living
sexual taboos. Not enough attention is paid totogether. She assumed Jard would be like her
those things that make intimacy satisfyingfather, and he thought Roberta would be like his
throughout life, to keep one's relationshipmother. Don't all young couples make that
permanent. The vast majority of sexual self-helpmistake? We soon learned how wrong that was
books have failed to make this vital point clearbut above all we shared a strong religious faith
since they are often based on several distortedthat helped us!At one time we were even like
assumptions about life and love. Usually missingtwo veteran riflemen in combat. One soldier was
from such books is the understanding thatfrom the Louisiana marsh country while the other
humans are always subjective beings with deepwas from the mountains of Colorado. They had
spiritual needs that must be satisfied or else lifelittle in common but survival, they didn't
turns sour. Life must become meaningful ratherunderstand each other, and they would not have
than just successful if we hope to live witheven known each other but for the fact that
satisfaction. Our needs and motivates go beyondthey were in the Army at the same time.
the physical and psychological levels of personalityHowever, they have saved each other's life so
to the philosophical. As a result, many books thatoften that each has forgotten how to survive
don't consider the psychospiritual aspects of lifewithout the partner. One kicks in the door and the
fail to help the users all that much.Our book,other throws in the grenade. Without a great deal
LOVERS FOR LIFE is based on the principle ofof deliberation! We have even moved past that
honest partnership and mutual acceptance. Weand now are fairly tolerant and understanding. The
simply cannot find lasting satisfaction except byrepeated grinding of two dominant personalities,
being truthful. It is also based on the belief thatalthough it created friction and sparks on many
we all need to live with spiritual values, positiveoccasions, has abraded a pretty good fit to our
attitudes, high expectations, mature beliefs andmarriage. Sexual pleasure and psychospiritual
responsible choices. Of course, few couples beginintimacy are still vital parts of our ivies, and we
this way -- we must learn how to surviverecommend them highly to everyone (although
together while we mature as real persons. Thewe realize that sexual satisfaction can exist only
myth that men and women are so different thatas a part of our total relationship). We are
misunderstanding and conflict are inevitable is justfortunate that we have kept our sexual
that -- a myth. Conflicts arise when we relate asrelationship alive and satisfying -- despite the myth
lovers from the immature or neurotic needs ofthat sex is for the young. I suppose many in the
adolescence, when we fail to understandreactionary church who would limit sex to
personality patterns, when we are pushed fromconception and childbirth consider us a dirty old
our comfort zones, and when we behave incouple -- but you can imagine how little time we
selfish ways that cause resentment. Then loversspend worrying about their neuroticism! Love is a
become adversaries who are struggling to winconstant source of rejuvenation for our life
power, prestige pleasure and possessions withouttogether. In LOVERS FOR LIFE we have included
regard for the other person's needs. Dissatisfyingprojects and processes for your use. They have
lovemaking virtually always occurs because one orproved very valuable for us and for couples in our
both of the lovers behave narcissistically.Becauseseminars. In the beginning, using them may make
sexuality and love-making is so compelling in andyou feel as awkward as giving a speech or singing
of itself -- so important to normal, well adjusteda solo for the first time. They will become familiar
women and men, we sometimes fail to realizewith use, however, and will help you develop a
that consistent sexual satisfaction is always themutually supportive partnership that remains
result of having a mutually supportive relationshippleasurable and permanent. Use them well to
rather than the cause of a good marriage.strengthen you mutual concern and
Because of the prominence of the pleasureself-transcendence; for they are tools with which
principle, many people still put that cart before theto build greater understanding. Even if boredom
horse. Many and many a person in counseling tellsand desperation have set in, these methods have
us that they cannot understand why they arethe power to revitalize a relationship and make it
having so many problems when the sex is stillworth keeping -- even when you are not making
good. Of course it is -- it is the only thing stilllove at the time. May God bless your attempts to
holding them together -- with so many othergrow toward happiness and fulfillment, for all of
problems both are determined to makeyour life!SAMPLE SELF-FOCUSWHY DO YOU
something work well. We find that fearful womenSUPPOSE OUR VICTORIAN ANCESTORS WERE
who remain with brutal, battering men oftenSO DETERMINED TO KEEP WOMEN
engage in wild lovemaking with their cruel abusers,SUBSERVIENT TO MEN -- EVEN TO THOSE
doing everything the men want, trying to makeWHO WERE ABUSIVE AND SOMETIMES
something, anything, satisfying in the relationship.MURDEROUS?
But it isn't a mutual connection -- such a man is
very much the tyrant she is frantically trying toWHY DO YOU THINK MANY MEN STILL
please in the only way she can share intimacyASSUME THAT THEY OWN THE WOMEN IN
with him. This seldom lasts long when everythingTHEIR LIVES -- THAT IF THEY CANNOT
else good has collapsed. And unless a womanCONTROL A WOMAN, THEN NO OTHER MAN
feels trapped, unable to take care of herself, withSHOULD LOVE HER?SAMPLE PROJECT - BASIC
no one to turn to for deliverance, many womenASSUMPTIONSDiscuss with a friend or write a
soon decide that sexual satisfaction purchased atshort paragraph or two or three sentences on
such a price is too expensive in the scheme ofwhat the following could mean to you.
life. They move on. Others make the sameMEN AND WOMEN REALLY DO NEED EACH
mistake our sexually frustrated and often neuroticOTHER FOR LOVE TO PROSPER.SEXUAL
Victorian ancestors did as they tried hard to turnPLEASURE AND SATISFACTION IS A SOUND
love into a sexless, platonic relationship. No oneASPECT OF LOVE.ONLY BY MATURING
personifies this more clearly than Mother Lee andTOGETHER CAN LOVE BECOME DEEPLY
the Shaker sect of Christians who came out ofFULFILLING.We wish you the very best as you
England during the Victorian era. We understandmake your life meaningful and fill it with love.Jard
why this happened and why groups like the& Roberta DeVille; published psychology books,
Shakers became celibate; the men and womenseminars & psychological assessment instruments.
living within the same colonies but in separateNICE GUYS FINISH FIRST was a best seller. He &
dorms and never sharing sexual love. SexualRoberta wrote 'LOVERS FOR LIFE' and other
diseases were rampant in Victorian England andcourses/books together. She's been a wonderful
America at the time. About one person in fiveteacher in Minneapolis for many years.
had a serious venereal disease at the time of our